Best formula 
      for CCC 
      22/06/2005 The Sun 
      
      SUBANG JAYA: The Ministry of Housing and Local Government announced yesterday 
      that it is working with various professional bodies to come up with the best 
      formula for the certification of completion of construction (CCC) works or 
      certificate of fitness (CF).
      Its deputy minister Datuk Robert Lau Hoi Chew told the Sun that the government 
      would like to see the responsibility passed on to the professionals for accountability 
      purposes and to ensure a system of check and balance. 
      Local councils are responsible for the issuing of CFs to developers although 
      the Cabinet had proposed that the responsibility should rest with architects 
      and engineers. 
      However, the Institute of Surveyors Malaysia (ISM) recently proposed that 
      it should be the professional body responsible for the final decision before 
      the CCC is issued. ISM's president John Loh said yesterday the ISM is not 
      in favor of architects being made responsible for the issuance of the CCC 
      because they are involved in the construction process. Loh added that ISM 
      prefers a check and balance method to be present in the system to ensure safety 
      of the buildings constructed. 
      House Buyers Association secretary-general Chang Kim Loong felt that all 
      professional bodies should be consulted on the issue of certification to be 
      done by architects and engineers. He said any new mechanism on the CCC should 
      be in place before the Ministry of Housing and Local Government makes a final 
      decision on the matter. 
      Meanwhile,Institute of Engineers Malaysia's vice-president Tan Yean Chin 
      said he does not see the implementation of the new CCC system as going back 
      to square one, as architects and engineers have been playing active roles 
      under the existing system. 
      "We do not believe that another level of checks proposed by ISM would benefit 
      or add value in protecting the public interest. Instead, it would add to the 
      cost for house buyers," said Tan. Surveyors are not trained like engineers 
      to build and design buildings, he added. 
      Real Estate and Housing Developers Association Malaysia's president Datuk 
      Jeffrey Ng is all for the proposal for only architects and engineers to be 
      involved in issuing the CCC. 
      He said: "Being paid by the client does not make architects and engineers 
      unprofessional or lack independence as they are guided by their own code of 
      ethics. We do not see it as a stumbling issue to use the services of architects 
      and engineers". 
      Like Tan, Ng felt the professionalism of architects and engineers should 
      not be questioned and replaced by another professional body such as the ISM. 
      He added that there is no guarantee that surveyors are equipped with the full 
      technical competence governing the building industry unlike architects, who 
      look at the entire spectrum of the industry. 
      At the opening of the 7th Surveyors' Congress, Lau noted that in the UK 
      and Australia, it is a common practice for house buyers to engage building 
      surveyors to and check and give the property a clean by bill of health before 
      purchase. He is said most banks in these countries make it compulsory for 
      those taking loans to engage the services of surveyors. 
      "Building engineering also comes under the scope of the work of building 
      surveyors," Lau said. He also asked ISM to consider including Fire and Rescue 
      Department personnel under its building surveyors division, as they are already 
      involved in the certification process.