His plate is full and he knows it too well.
Housing and local Government Minister Dato’ Seri
Ong Ka Ting has finally settled into his
five-month-old post comfortably enough to talk
shop. ‘If we had met earlier, I would have had
nothing to talk to you about,” Ong says,
referring to City & Country’s first request to
interview him in January.
Since assuming the portfolio on Dec 14, Ong has
spent time understanding the problems raised and
complaints lodged with his ministry. A
prioritising of tasks followed. The array of
areas needing urgent attention extends from
protecting the interest of the “good”
parties related to property development to
arming the ministry with more “teeth” in order
to be more effective.
A revamp of the Housing
Developers' Act and the Town and Country
Planning Act is underway. This aside, the
minister is also busy with enhancing the
relationship with the local authorities. The
thorny issue of the issuance of the certificate
of fitness of occupation (CF) is high on the
agenda. Ong is cannot stopping at getting CFs
issued within 14 days by all local authorities.
He aims to set up one-step agency at state level
for even speedier process and approval.
The efficiency of local
authorities and the attitude of his ministry’s
staff are also in the spotlight. He is not
disputing that the ministry has an image problem
and he has sent the work out: Be pro-active and
lend a ear to housing woes - even if they are
not within the ambit of the ministry. His
staffers are expected to hear the complainants
out and to collate the information.
On April 1, the ministry's
licensing and advisory services department
introduced a more efficient approvals process.
Once accepted, applications for licences, such
as developers' licences and advertising permits,
will be processed within a month.
Previously, such processes
could take months because of incomplete
applications, Ong says. Under the new procedure,
officers manning the counters must vet the
applications immediately and inform applicants
if the forms are incomplete. Once an application
is accepted, the clock starts ticking.
The minister is equally
mindful of management-related problems in
high-rise homes - a matter which, he concedes,
warrants urgent attention, given the increasing
popularity of such homes. In the first three
month of this year alone, 15,000 units of such
homes - two-thirds of them in Selangor - were
put on the market.
The government, Ong reveals,
is close to introducing the Common Properties
and Buildings Management Bill to solve the
problem. He also discusses the build-then-sell
concept, which he assures will not be forced on
the industry as it would leave no room for the
small players. “Not all small players are bad,”
he says, adding that ‘big’ players were once
small ones too.
HDAM welcomes revamp of
Housing Developers’ Act
Topping Ong’s to do list is a
revamp of the Housing Developers’ Act -
legislation that determines the fate of both
consumers and housing developers and is often a
subject of discontent among both parties,
especially as it governs the sale-and-purchase
agreement (S & P).
For this tasks, Ong Heads a
committee of developers through the
Housing Developers Association of Malaysia (HDAM),
lawyers who have dealt with and have a vast
understanding of the act and consumers through
FOMCA (Federation of Malaysian Consumers’
Association) and CAP (Consumers Association of
Penang).
“The Act is being changed not
to satisfy me.” he says, adding that
deliberations are on-going and that the gap
(differences among members of the group) is
narrowing.
Without dwelling on details,
Ong hints that the ministry will scour for
loopholes and plug them. Fines will also be
stiffer as a deterrent to would-be offenders. He
adds: “To the good developers, do not worry. We
are not witch-hunting. They should be able to
sleep well”.
HDAM president Dato’ Eddy Chen
says while the current legislation caters for
everybody-developers and consumers –the majors
grouse is that it is a lengthy process to remedy
any breach. What the industry needs is a speedy
and efficient process to deal with complaints.
Chen says HDAM has been urging
the government to come down hard on errant
developers and dish out sentences that
commensurate with the wrongdoing. Although few
in number, he adds such errant developers could
tarnish the image of developers in general.
Elaborating on the review of
the Town and Country Planning Act, Ong says it
is to protect the environment through ensuring
coordinated efforts by both the federal and
state government in their development
activities. Currently, certain requirements
imposed by a state may be unnecessary in a
neighbouring state. The latter may not even be
aware of the impact of the requirements. ”So we
feel there is a need for a National Spatial
Plan, a big structural plan for Peninsular
Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak,” says Ong.
Deadline
While Ong sees some of his
tasks coming to light this year, he realises
others can only be put in place during the
Eighth Malaysia Plan, as these involve budgetary
approvals. Some changes are targeted this year
to the Housing Developers’ Act, the Town and
Country Planning Act. The Ministry is also
fine-tuning the Common Properties and Buildings
Management Bill.
“I see this whole year as a consolidation period
whereby positive changes are made in the
ministry to make it more effective,” he adds.
Below is an edited
question-and-answers session with Ong:
As the Housing and Local
Government Minister, what are your priority
tasks and why?
I spent the first two months
understanding problems, identifying the urgent
tasks. There are just to many complaints from
house buyers. Some problems concerned projects
five to 10 years old and others current - like
project not taking off, some stopped half-way,
about quality, environment. After going through
all those problems, I feel there is an urgency
to revamp the Housing Developers’ Act. It still
has teeth to oversee the Housing industry but
there is much more to do to make the Act more
complete, balanced.
Another priority area is the
Town and Country Planning Act. Land matters fall
under the purview of the respective states and
local authorities. In the past, many development
projects have been approved and carried out but
some of these have not taken good care of the
upstream and downstream impact. They chop, fill
and cut trees. Divert rivers or even fill up
rivers. Drainage system were poor. Landscaping
was not a main component of the development.
The Act needs to be tightened
further to have more coordinated efforts between
federal and state governments. Every local
authority has its structural plan. And states
have their structural plan but we find that’s
not good enough. One state may overemphasise on
certain things but the neighbouring state may
not know of the continuity, and their impact. So
we feel there is a need for a national spatial
plan where you have a big structural plan for
Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak.
Enhancing the efficiency of
the local council is another area of priority.
All local authorities (independently) run,
manage and plan for the people. My ministry,
representing the federal government, coordinates
and uniformises policies. We feel it is time to
have a more uniform approach, especially when
peoples’ expectations of local council have been
raised. They no longer see the local council as
a place where they just pay a few ringgit in
assessment or just collecting solid waste and
things like that. The role of local councils is
more than what it used to be. In that respect, I
feel the urgency of having a more long-term
plan, a master plan, to have a standard approach
in handling peoples’ problems and providing them
services. Among others, local council have to be
IT-oriented.
What is the time-frame for
these to materialise?
We see a lot of these only
happening in the Eighth Malaysia Plan because we
have to ask for certain budgets.
Certain quarters say your
Ministry has no teeth in control and supervision
of local councils.
Constitutionally, we have to
respect the fact that all land matters are state
matters. And because many activities are related
to land, the state governments are the ones with
the say. But I believe in a good working
relationship between the federal and state
governments. There are certain things that are
concurrent, for example, town and country
planning. If the federal governments works a
little bit more and brings the state government
closer, then we can have better understanding
and so, there is not question of who is more
powerful, who is superior.
Do you see the barrier
stretching beyond, to the revenue aspect?
Of course. But the federal
government has no intention of depriving the
states of their rights. We respect their
constitutional rights. We should not emphasise
on what sort of powers we would lose or gain. It
should be how we can work together to improve
the living environment, the quality of life, for
the good of the people. And I’m sure the people
welcome that. That should be the correct
perspective.
Do you see this as a long
and winding road simply because old habits die
hard?
It will take some time to have
a paradigm shift but then again, we have to show
our sincerity. I believe we always take the
right move, be pro-active and send all the
friendly gestures that we (federal government)
are here to help. We are not here to take away.
How far have you gone in
doing this?
We had a good start. So far,
we have gone through two meeting: the menteris
besar and chief ministers’ meeting chaired by
the Prime Minister and the National Council of
Local Government, chaired by the Deputy Prime
Minister. I realise that the MBs and chief
ministers share the same aspirations. They want
to improve the peoples’ lives, ensure that their
states are in good condition. I see no reason
why me cannot work together. And I know most of
the MBs quite well. Each time I spoke with them
unofficially, not only were they receptive but
they even offered ideas on how we should work
together. I am planning, together with my heads
of department, to make our rounds to the states.
We intend to brief the respective MBs on what we
want to do and we will also listen to what
they are doing and what they expect of us. I
think that will be a good start. Already, I have
unofficially done some work with the MBs on and
off.
You do acknowledge it is
not going to be an easy task to accomplish?
Not easy in the sense that
more resources are needed to fulfil some of the
demands of the state governments. We have also
to get the state governments to feel the urgency
the way we do. But I don’t look at it too
negatively. I also feel that it is a challenge
worth taking up and to overcome.
Certain quarters have a
less-than positive perception of your ministry.
I admit we have to work a bit
harder to improve the image of the
ministry. That is also my priority. Since taking
office, I have given my officers a lot of pep
talks and told them to be pro-active. Everybody
is to go out of the way to tackle problems. Work
as a team. Don’t just compartmentalise
themselves and don’t put the blame on the Acts
and the laws.
I have given this whole year
as a consolidation period to bring positive
changes to the ministry, to make it more
effective and more reassuring to the people.
Among other things, I am in the process of
upgrading the efficiency of services. For
example, effective April 1, the licensing and
advisory services department has changed the
approval process. It can’t take more than a
month to process licences - developers’ licences,
advertising permits and all other related
licences. Before that, they might take a few
months because, according to the reason given,
some of the documents were not complete.
But after we had discussed the
matter, that division (in the ministry) has
agreed that applications submitted must be
vetted there and then. If there is something
missing, the applicant must be told about it
immediately. The moment we accept the forms, the
applicant must be told in a month whether it is
a yes or a no. So, that has been implemented. I
see it as a new work culture.
The enforcement unit has been working day and
night the last few months. They know I am very
strict. All complaints must be looked into. Even
if it is nothing to do with us, tell them. Don’t
leave them in the dark. Of course, some of the
complaints may not be related to us (the
ministry). Yet, I have told my officers to hear
them out and still look into the matter.
Sometimes, things can be subjective. For
example, a buyer complains about the quality of
his house but the developer concerned thinks
otherwise. So, how do we satisfy the
complainant? What we can do at least is to speak
to the developer to find out what is happening.
So, that is my priority too.
Which section of the
Housing Developers’ Act needs revamping?
The Act is not being changed
to satisfy me. I have had a lot of
consultations. I chair the main committee. We
have a open committee and have invited
representations from developers and buyers.
Developers are represented by the Housing
Developers’ Association of Malaysia (HDAM). For
the buyers’ side, there are lawyers who have
dealt with a lot of house buyers, who knows the
developers’ problems, who know the loopholes and
who are impartial. Then there are Fomca
(Federation of Malaysian Consumers’ Association)
and CAP (Consumers Association of Penang). The
debate in the meetings. At the end of the day,
the interests of the different groups have been
represented. The differences (among the
committee members) are now narrowing. The gap is
getting smaller.
What is wrong with the Act
as it is now?
When developers follow the
rule, the Act has no power. It is only when
developers try to find ways and means to run
away from their responsibilities, when they try
to take advantage of house buyers, that the Act
is important. That’s why we have to revamp the
Act, including Schedule G (which deals with
landed residential properties) and Schedule H
(strata-titled residential properties) in such a
way that if all developers behave and all house
buyers stick to their sale-and-purchase
agreement, then everything will be fine. But if
anybody tries to get out of the agreement, this
Act will say no. That is the main overview of
the Act.
Does that mean the current
Act is ineffective?
Many parts of it are still
working well. But sometimes there can be
loopholes, especially when the ministry does not
have enough say over certain areas. For example,
you want to go after them (errant developers)
but they don’t mind going to court and pay a bit
of a fine because they have made a lot of money.
Has the Act been overtaken
by time?
Regulations of the Act have
been changed quite a bit over the years. But in
our country, many changes in the property scene
have taken place in the last 10 years. That is
the main point. So, we have to revamp the Act in
line with the changes.
There have been a lot of
complaints over the management of high-rise
residential properties. What is your ministry
doing about this?
We are in the process of
introducing a new bill, the Common Properties
and Buildings Management Bill. We were in fact
ready with it when we were informed that some of
the highrise residential units are within
commercial complexes. Thus we are now
fine-tuning the entire Bill. There is now no law
governing the period of vacuum between vacant
possession and issuance of strata titles for a
residential building.
It is only after the strata
titles are issued that the purview of the
Commissioner of Building (COB) comes into force.
The period of vacuum can be very long and it is
also this period that sees a lot of problems.
You leave it to the developers, but if they
don’t perform, people complain. Currently, we do
go after the developers although there is no law
in our hands. However, they say only half of the
residents are paying the maintenance fees. So,
it is a chicken-and-egg situation. After having
heard so many cases, it is clear that things
will not work without a law.
The new law will be enforced
even after strata titles are issued. The main
principle behind the Act is that developers
should not manage the buildings on their own. We
want them to immediately set up an account, form
a joint-committee with residents to run the
management. So, there will be transparency and
residents will be more comfortable to pay. In
the case of a dispute, the Act will provide for
the appointment of the COB to intervene. This
joint committee will be permanent.
Number and
Nature of Complaints Lodged
Against Developers in 1998 and
1999 |
Type Of
Complaint |
1998 |
1999 |
Defects/Quality
of works
Late delivery
Certificate of
fitness
Interest/Compensation
Services
Payment
Misappropriation/Agreement
letters
Mortgage/Title
Infrastructure
Not following
rules and
regulations
Cheating
Others/Queries |
192
91
99
238
59
114
66
38
22
14
46
156 |
222
233
150
305
94
146
131
72
40
44
100
364 |
Total |
1,135 |
1,991 |
Do you consider the
housing industry over-regulated?
From the government’s point of
view, some of these regulations are necessary
for a more healthy growth of the industry. But
good developers have nothing to worry about.
Some of the regulations were set by state
governments. Again, it is a “yes” and a “no”
answer. If you do not set regulations, are
developers going to build low-cost homes to
fulfil certain social duties? I am working
towards balanced regulation of the building
industry.
The certificate of fitness
(CF) is still a thorny issue. Despite attempts
by your ministry to overcome the problem,
different sets of rules apparently still apply
in different states. How are you going to tackle
the problem?
We have presented papers and
we want CFs to be issued within 14 days once
clearance from all the seven technical
departments in each local council has been
obtained. Once an application with all these
approvals is submitted, the CF deemed given
after 14 days, even if there is no word from the
local council concerned. In fact, we are even
moving beyond that. Right now, there could be a
delay at the technical departments. Under
discussion now is the setting-up of a one-stop
agency at the state level, to further speed up
the approvals.
Overbuilding and excess
supply are now synonymous with certain property
sub-sectors. What role has the ministry played
and what further action will be taken to help
curb the problem?
There are numerous lessons
learnt from the recent property downturn.
Developers must avoid the “join-the-bandwagon”
syndrome which led to their overbuilding certain
types of properties when times were good. They
also need to refrain from overpricing their
properties and compromise quality for quantity.
Developers hit during the crisis lamented that
there was lack of information and to overcome
this, the authorities have set up the National
Property Information Centre (NAPIC).
NaPIC is enlisting the
cooperation of certain parties, including local
councils, to gather property-development-related
data. How does your ministry ensure that due
assistance is accorded by the respective
councils?
Once the electronic link-up
through computerisation from the local
authorities and the ministry is complete, a free
flow of online information would be in place, be
it to NaPIC or even to the public.
Do you favour a
build-then-sell concept?
Such a concept is too drastic
to impose on housing developers. The current
system works out well. If we were to build then
sell, we may have only a few big boys around.
Don’t forget that these big boys were once small
boys too. And it does not necessarily mean that
big boys are good and small boys bad.
How many complaints were
lodged against developers in 1998 and 1999? What
was their nature and how were they dealt with?
In 1998, 84.8 per cent of the
complaints lodged were solved. The success rate
for last year, however, was only 55 per cent and
this was mainly due to the nature of the
problems amidst the economic downturn (see
table)
A final word to developers?
To the good developers, do not
worry about changes to the Housing Developers’
Act. Sleep well.